Therapy. When do we know if we need it? Why is it so taboo? How can I get my spouse to go with me?

These are questions I receive whenever I chat about my personal journey in therapy on my Instagram stories. And they are fair questions! These were all the questions when I first started attending therapy sessions back when Steve and I got married.

The two of us had just moved across the country, he was playing in the NFL, and I was trying to figure out my new role as a wife, daughter in law, and friend. I figured I could use a little help navigating this season.That’s when I initially decided to go into therapy and boy am I SO glad I did.

There are things I STILL do to this day that I learned from my counselor at that time and I can’t tell you how grateful I am. 

And that’s why I’m so open about my experience in counseling because I want you to have freedom and confidence in your everyday life as well.

That’s why I KNEW Lori Gottlieb would be the perfect person to sit down and chat with on this topic. 

Lori is a psychotherapist and New York Times bestselling author of Maybe You Should Talk to Someone, which has sold over 1 million copies. In addition to her clinical practice, she is co-host of the popular “Dear Therapists” podcast produced by Katie Couric and writes The Atlantic’s weekly “Dear Therapist” advice column. Her new Maybe You Should Talk To Someone workbook is a toolkit to edit your story and change your life.

Let’s just say she knows a thing or two about this world. 

In this episode, we are chatting all things:


  • People pleasing: where it starts and how to reduce it
  • Creating a safe space for your children to open up about their struggles
  • The steps that lead to ACTUAL, lasting change in your life
  • Why we are poor narratives of our own stories
  • Lori’s incredible back story that led her to counseling in the first place (hint: the show Friends is a large part of this!)


One of my favorite parts of this conversation was when I asked Lori, ‘How do we create and keep real and lasting change in our lives?’ Her straight forward and relabatable answer surprised me. She broke the 5 steps of change:


  • Pre-contemplation: You don’t realize you’re thinking about making the change
  • Contemplation: You’re aware of it, but you’re not ready to do anything about it yet
  • Preparation: You’re preparing to make the change from logistics to support
  • Action: You make the change
  • Maintenance: Gather support + compassion so when you do slip up, you have a plan to get back on track until the new feels familiar


Tune in to hear her break down these steps even further as well as the three magic words to help your child open up about their mental health and personal struggles.

Lori is an empathetic expert that will take you on a mini counseling session during this episode. Prepare to learn a bit about yourself while having a few laughs along the way.

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July 11, 2022

When to go to Therapy, How to Talk with Your Kids about Mental Health + How to Stop People Pleasing


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